tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19606253.post4050252029433881979..comments2023-11-03T02:19:04.895+13:00Comments on attempting abandonment: the damagelucy arhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05853654737119450492noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19606253.post-16722360634847042962008-01-06T05:52:00.000+13:002008-01-06T05:52:00.000+13:00yep yep, awesome points both of you.we have become...yep yep, awesome points both of you.<BR/>we have become consumers rather then creators and that is such a shame. If we make life more about creating, not consuming, then Christmas would be an extension of this. <BR/>Christmas -and thus celebration - have become synonymous with consumerism, this sucks. It is clear that we need to reestablish Christmas as an event above and beyond consuming but we need to think incredibly imaginatively about how to do so because otherwise we sabotage the celebration altogether!lucy arhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05853654737119450492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19606253.post-64318977783756887612008-01-03T10:04:00.000+13:002008-01-03T10:04:00.000+13:00Man that is such a predicament, that a lot of stuf...Man that is such a predicament, that a lot of stuff is done in the name of family gatherings etc. I wonder if the chirstmas obsession with excess is just a symptom of a greater issue of consuming more than we really need in the west. I suppose thats a pretty pain point that youre all aware of! but as christmas advertising increases so does our spending, when theres a sale we spend way more than we actually normally would or need just because its a sale... etc. Maybe as we relook how we do life, the flow on effect will be that christmas will be different. Practical ways to do that? hmmm momentum, movements that are long term and growing (like the old make poverty history), door knock on your street and discuss a community garden...<BR/><BR/>this all opens up bigger questions.. how do we mobolise mass change?<BR/>AAHHH big life question eh?!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19606253.post-61132850628583416492008-01-01T05:49:00.001+13:002008-01-01T05:49:00.001+13:00This comment has been removed by the author.Glyn Harrieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02774778167027700588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19606253.post-9650412382653385412008-01-01T05:49:00.000+13:002008-01-01T05:49:00.000+13:00Hey. Glad you had a good Christmas. Of course I ...Hey. Glad you had a good Christmas. Of course I don't mind you mentioning the poem. I am honoured.<BR/><BR/>I think it's really difficult to challenge the waste of Christmas because all these gifts and snacks and food and rubbish add to values on family and community that get ignored the rest of the year. We're a society that thinks with our wallets and all this money that we spend on the festivities adds to the aesthetic and it's the aesthetic that gives us that warm, fuzzy glow. When you take away the money, the warm, fuzzy glow decreases and so to suggest such a thing makes you look like a scrooge.<BR/><BR/>We're desperate for a better society and Christmas seems to promote that. So we tend to shut our eyes and ears to anything that might hinder that or make it sound superficial.<BR/><BR/>I do believe that Christmas brings out the best in a lot of people and I also believe that (rightly or wrongly) the money that we spend on Christmas is part of the reason for that. But I also do wander at what cost.Glyn Harrieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02774778167027700588noreply@blogger.com